Hungarian businessman would buy Transcarpathia from Ukraine for gold

5 Comments

1. Mario says:

   04/09/2023 at 18:16

   Facts: in 1939 Hungary, under Horty’s dictatorial rule, took immediate advantage of the German invasion of Czechoslovakia and invaded Transcarpathia, at that time a Czechoslovak territory, and whose Hungarian population constituted a mere 10 % of the region. Following the annexation, about 27.000 non Hungarians were massacred, no guilt, no trials, pure ethnic cleansing. Consequently, some 75.000 ethnic Ukrainians fled to Soviet Union and approx. 60.000 of them later on ended up in gulags. And this without going into the even more tragic faith of the circa 100.000 Jews of Transcarpathia most of whom did not survive the Hungarian and later German occupations.

   The above facts just to explain why even many “Hungarians” of Transcarpathia prefer to stay with Ukraine rather than their land beconing part of Hungary.
   Before even thinking of something so idiotic as buying that land, ask those who live there if they would like to be bought.

2. Paul says:

   04/09/2023 at 21:58

   Ukraine is not for sale!
   If someone wants to acquire the land of another country then it should be discussed between hungary and Ukraine.
   Using Ukraines current situation being taken over by a hostile Russia is a disrespectful and a low blow to Ukraine. TAKING BACK PART OF UKRAINE for hungary is just seizing the opportunity to pounce on an already war torn Ukraine is disrespectful and hostile. Why would Ukraine want to part with the area. Inhabitants being both Hungarian and Ukrainian, it just sounds as a smoke screen to take the pressure off the Hungarian and Russian ongoing friendship. Furthermore why would Ukraine would want to give up land to an already unfriendly Hungary. The last point is the fact that Ukraine is fighting to regain control of its territories occupied by Russian orcs, so why would Ukraine wants to sell part of their sovereign territory to a unfriendly country like hungary and the Orbán clan? I think Hungarian government is trying to seize the opportunity and also use questionable tactics just like Russia. Hungary is becoming a problem both for the EUROPEAN UNION and NATO and now exploiting a country in turmoil. I was born Hungarian but renounced my Hungarian citizenship and became Canadian.
   24 years of service in the army and being deployed in several conflict zones such as Bosnia, Haiti and Afghanistan.
   There’s no true democracy in hungary left and it’s still sinking and needs Russia for a number of reasons and consistently opposed to almost anything that EU or NATO comes up with. Like blocking aid from EU to Ukraine for a single reason that Ukraine should play games and concede territory to Russia in order for peaceful negotiations with a lying Russian regime and its trigger happy leaders. There can be no peace until Russia has lost the war and withdraw its troops from ALL of Ukraine territories including Crimea. Hungary has no legitimate reason to bring up this subject at this dangerous point and to take part of Ukraine when Ukraine is fighting for its survival. Hungary is against all military help for Ukraine offered from the EU and NATO. Belarus and hungary is pretty much on the same side and trying to take advantage of the current situation.
   Last but not least, the Hungarian government already clearly stated that the government of Ukraine is an opponent to Hungary and its survival with nothing to back this claim especially in turbulent times like we see now.
   Hungary is a back stabber and opportunistic just like Russia and Belarus.
   Slava ukraine

3. A Horvath says:

   04/09/2023 at 23:59

   According to Mario, the history of Transcarpathia and Hungary began in 1939. Actually, it started a 1,000 years before that when Hungarians
   arrived in the Carpathian Basin. Transcarpathia was part of Hungary for a 1,000 years until it was taken by force. Ukraine has only had it for about 79 years.

4. Mario says:

   05/09/2023 at 06:12

   A. Horvath should know that in 1910 ( ten years before Trianon ) Hungarians made up less than 1/3 of the population of Transcarpathia. Majority was Ukrainian-Ruthenian.
   And the history of Transcarpathia does not begin 1000 years ago either.
   I was just trying to explain why people there do not trust Hungary.

5. Andrew G. Benjamin says:

   05/09/2023 at 17:13

   AS FOR MARIO, let’s correct your version of history: “As in other countries of the Danubian Basin, the Hungarians of historic Sub­ carpathian Rus’ (Hungarian-Karpataija), present-day Transcarpathia, did not be­come a national minority until 1919. Before then they were simply Hungarians-and part of the dominant state nationality-living in the northeastern comer of the Hungarian Kingdom.”
   https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/nationalities-papers/article/abs/hungarians-in-transcarpathia-subcarpathian-rus/D63AD7C5724CF6B2C7F723A9CC067577

   One cannot invade a nation not his. The Hungarians are the natives of that land, it was their nation.
   The Israelis didn’t invade a nation not theirs. In the same sense the Palestinian Arab, people from everywhere, predominantly from southern Syria, are the interlopers invited in during the Zionist era to build the land up. The idea of Palestinian nation and peoplehood was an invention ca 1964 at Lubyanka Street in Moscow for a predatory ideology that was exporting revolution across the planet.

   https://andrewgbenjamin.substack.com/p/so-you-want-a-two-state-solution-955

   https://andrewgbenjamin.substack.com/p/the-indecency-of-the-anti-zionist

   The Hungarian nation was torn apart by the western powers, leaving Hungary no choice but to join the Axis powers in the hope of regaining 70% of its lost territory: https://tsarizm.com/analysis/2021/07/26/the-coordinated-globalist-war-against-hungarys-press-families-children/

   Moreover, in the same vein: PUTIN REMEMBERS RUSSIA’S PAST so HE CAN REPEAT IT
   https://andrewgbenjamin.substack.com/p/putin-forgets-russias-past-so-he
   In WWII Russia murdered 7-10 million Ukrainians.
   In the last two years they murdered probably a half million and displaced 13 million.
   Hungary in the meanwhile welcomed and fed and clothed a million or more.
   Being landlocked, with no access to seaports that the other Euro nations have, Hungary has had no choice but to buy oil from those who can sell it.

   As for the Jews, Hungary suffered the largest loss of its Jewish population in the Holocaust, 10% of ALL Holocaust victims, or 600,000.

   AS FOR PAUL’s shameful abandonment of his nation, as a U.S. citizen who left Hungary almost seven decades ago, I begged, borrowed and groveled to get back my Hungarian citizenship that I had never surrendered and never will surrender.

   This is a beautiful nation with the kindest and loveliest people one can meet.

   Democracy in Hungary is imperfect. It is not a Jeffersonian democracy, for Hungary is a parliamentary, not constitutional republic.
   24 years of military service taught you little about democracy, that is well and alive in Hungary, and dead like a doornail in the United States.

   As for my take on the Ukraine war that Hungary is reluctant to join can be seen in this photo:
   https://storage.googleapis.com/welove-media/32/fortepan-186689.exact1980w.jpg

   For you, with all the military training of a quarter of a century, you obviously don’t understand the issues surrounding the war, but rather express your hostility to the nation of your birth which played no part in it.

   We, a Hungarian family, lost everything when we left in 56, and I still have no ill will toward Hungary, but plenty toward the Russians who left my beautiful city a pile of rubble. Here you go:

   https://andrewgbenjamin.substack.com/p/nato-in-the-baltic-understanding

   I hope you will, one day, come to terms with your hatred of this nation and a government that is succesfully rebuilding it into its former glory, your reason for your feelings, and rather, learn to love it. Instead of taking the sides of the Obama-Clinton-Kerry-Biden cabal that is bullying both Israel and Hungary, you should instead detest the bullies, not their victims!

   https://andrewgbenjamin.substack.com/p/obama-biden-european-union-stop-bullying

   AS FOR HORVATH: The Hungarians were not the first settlers of Hungary who are still here. The Jews were.
   The Jews came on the heels of Roman armies, Not only were the Jews Rome’s best troops, but they handled the logistics, accounting, inventory, blade smithing, transport and supplies, for an army fighting in a faraway land from home.

   The Romans left eventually as their empire collapsed, but many Jews stayed behind to marry the local women. It is one reason so many Hungarians have Jewish blood they know nothing about (anywhere from 25 to 40%), and why so many Hungarian women are so beautiful. REF: https://www.jstor.org/stable/42944080

   AS FOR MARIO’S LAST REMARK, it is not Hungary that should be distrusted, but the EU that changed the rules of the European Union to the Lisbon Treaty; from a free trade union to one that is telling parents that the pedophile Dutch Prime Minister has the right to groom other people’s children into deviance:
   https://andrewgbenjamin.substack.com/p/a-very-bad-hair-day-for-the-soros