Can PM Orbán prevent Mark Rutte from becoming NATO General Secretary?
Mark Rutte criticised PM Orbán and Hungary for the Hungarian democracy’s erosion as Dutch prime minister. Now, it can backfire on him since he would like to become NATO General Secretary, which requires the support of all the member states.
Türkiye, Romania, Slovakia, and Hungary against Mark Rutte
Jens Stoltenberg, the incumbent General Secretary of the US-led military alliance, will leave the office in October. Currently, there are two candidates applying for the NATO top job: former Dutch prime minister Mark Rutte and Romanian President Klaus Iohannis.
Rutte garnered the support of 28 out of the 32 NATO member states and travelled to Istanbul this Friday to convince the Turkish leader, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, to support his bid. According to Bloomberg, he was successful in that project.
If that is true, the only opponents of Rutte will be Romania, Slovakia and Hungary. However, following the Turkish support, Iohannis is expected to stand down, which leaves Bratislava and Budapest in the opponent’s position.
Erosion of democracy in Hungary
Bloomberg did not write anything about Slovakia’s standpoint but mentioned that PM Orbán would probably not support Rutte’s nomination. Before, the former Dutch prime minister criticised Orbán and the Hungarian government for the “erosion of the Hungarian democracy”, and Orbán is not the type of person who forgets such “attacks”.
For example, in 2021, Rutte said they had to bring Hungarians to their knees. In a remark, Orbán said, “Hungarians only kneel before God, before their country, and when they ask for the hand of their lovers.”
The military leader of NATO is always American, which is understandable considering the fact that the US Army is by far the strongest military power in the alliance. Of course, that does not make the position of the general secretary weightless.
What will Orbán get in return for his vote?
The general secretary’s task is to bring together the member states and represent NATO’s interests, for example, in the ongoing war in Ukraine. Furthermore, his task will be to prevent any further escalations between Moscow and the Western allies, portfolio.hu wrote.
Rutte will need Hungary’s support since voting about the position requires unanimity. Bloomberg wrote nobody knew what PM Orbán would get in return for his vote.
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Just for fun I would like to see Hungary put forward Peter Szijjarto’s name for Secretary General of NATO. Putin would likely need an hour to recover from his fit of laughter.
I am sick and tired to my back teeth of these career politicians. They never had a real job, where they hire and fire people, balance the books, create a useful product or provide a service… They spend DECADES leeching off of the taxpayer and even when they’re finally out of office, they just get shuffled off to some sinecure and continue mooching off the taxpayer. They also make millions, despite their salaries being average, by playing the market with insider knowledge and then they go on the “lecture” circuit where they really clean up good. They’re almost all in the service of the globalist-socialist elites. TERM LIMITS NOW!!! You get five years in public office and then you’re out. If your ideas are good, that’s enough time to implement them, and they’ll get picked up by your successor. If your ideas blow, you have no business staying in power longer than a half a decade anyway.
What is Rutte’s qualification? Did he reach the position of a General? How well is Rutte informed about the needs of a modern army in the 21st century. Neither Rutte not losing Von der Leyen should be appointed to that position. It seems failed socialist EU nations are trying to keep power by appointing another socialist idiot to NATO for the sake of keeping power.
Rutte ruined a once well-functioning Netherlands now he wants to do the same to NATO.
failed socialist EU nations? One of the most socialist cities in Europe is Vienna… municipal government flats in that city total around 60%. Waiters, shoemakers, students and immigrants can live in nice, functional, clean flats cheaply and the populace are friendly, relaxed and have free time and can vacation as a result. LOL what a dump compared to Budapest, right?
As opposed to our Mr. Orbán, Mr. Rutte did not take a decade over his studies and actually held a real job (working for Unilever) before going into politics … He has been Prime Minister for 14 years. And for all purposes, he is halfway competent and effective.
Now for the funny bit – he is known as pragmatic, someone who is into Realpolitik – which is also what our Politicians claim to be!
@mariavontheresa … Mr. Rutte’s party is VVD – they are actually right of center, if not outright right wing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy
You may know Mr. Wilders? He joined VVD in 1989, was a mentor to Mr. Rutte when he came to Parliament and left to found his far right PVV in 2004 … So – VVD are not socialists, nor is the Netherlands a “socialist” nation. PvdA (the socialists) and The Greens have not been in power for decades …
Orbon is right to oppose Ruttke after all the disgusting lies he said about Hungary. He deserves no support from any independent nation.
Freedomofspeech. What about orban lies to hungarians? Should i list them? Should you still support him?
Fun fact: to go and meet with Mr. Erdoğan in Turkiye, Mr. Rutte took a commercial flight for which he paid, himself…
Can you imagine our Politicians doing something similar?
Hernandez, what lies has PM. Orban told? He has been accused of a lot of things but PM. Orban has never been called a liar. Wonder who is paying you.
Supporters of Rutte, when you are sick, do you no go to a physician, when you have a toothache do you not visit a dentist. The same method should be applied to choosing a head of an Armed Forces NATO. Politicians do not belong in NATO; NATO needs a qualified soldier, not the head of Pentagon Austin or retired General Milley, both involved in the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Maria, here is my list.
No guest immigrants vs bringing thousands now.
Family friendly vs pardon of pedophile helper.
Respectful to woman vs offering Hungarian girls to Americans (cpac 2022)
Calling Hungary sovereign state vs bringing Chinese police.
Should i continue? Who is the liar now? Or you are just blind?
And to be honest, i wish to be paid to tell the true, but unfortunately im just a worker in your country with a family to support.
Bottom line is that NATO has always existed to protect Europe from the Russian threat and that threat is bigger than it ever has been in 40 years. Whoever is picked most definitely has to be someone who will promote a robust defence and the Fidesz government is so far into Putin’s pocket that their influence on this decision is completely suspect of design to undermine European security. Get Orban and Szijjarto out there making vocal statements about the danger of the Russian threat. When do you ever hear them talk about it and why don’t you hear them talk about it? It’s obvious. Fidesz is a cancer on NATO that should be removed.
Hernandez, guest workers are not guest immigrants. Guest workers have to go home when their visa expires.
You are right, there was one pedophilia helper pardoned, that is unforgivable. You are talking about 1 transgression only.
Hungary has never offered women to any tourists, especially Americans (many that exaggerate). It is unfortunate, prostitution can sometimes become profitable, and many women work in that industry. What is your solution, jail the women. Also, johns and pimps should be jailed with prostitutes. If Hungary outlawed prostitution, the EUP would have a fit.
If Hungary lacks police officers, they will have to be recruited from abroad. It is better to recruit Chinese police rather than socialist Europeans. It would be preferrable to only have Hungarian law enforcers. Police Officers wages should be raised than the Chinese Police Officers can go home. Hungary is still a sovereign state and make all internal decision.
So far, no lies were involved. It is not an appropriate word to use.
Oh Maria, you just lost me completely.
The guest workers will stay, you know why? orban needs him.
Here is the speech of your idol in 2022 about offering Hungarian girls to americans:
https://2015-2022.miniszterelnok.hu/speech-by-prime-minister-viktor-orban-at-the-opening-of-cpac-texas/
About Chinese police. Come on! spionage is real. And why are not the Hungarian police joint by Chinese translators? is that your solution? do you really thing is a good idea to bring police from china? where is your so called sovereignty ?
You arguments are similar to the ones one the Hungarian people living in a village. sorry but looks like you dont want to accept the reality
Where is your proof Hernandez. I read the whole speech and there was no offering of women to Americans. PM. Orban’s speech was an explanation of Hungarian policies, and it made total sense.
I am not happy about Chinese police in Hungary. However, I feel that the Orban government should raise the pay rate of Police Officers and there will be less need for Chinese officers.
I stand by all my statement. Hungarian government’s policies are appropriate for Hungary and PM Orban and FIDESZ is doing a good job. Western socialism has ruined many countries, lowered the standard of living. In the US 26% of the population has a problem putting food on the table. 70% of palestinians support hamas and other terrorist groups and Biden wants to bring these murdering terrorists to the US.
Hungarians should celebrate their luck.
Ok it loos like you didn’t read the article above or you just made a blind eye (or maybe you are just blind) so here is what orban said:
So, if you are not married yet, you should immediately find a Hungarian wife!
He said that to americans in CPAC 2022
I dont know how old you are, but this is so unrespectful to Hungarian women. Hungarian girls have said that to me
But of course, you are just supporting blindly to Orban. I dont know what other probe you want. Same with migration, in 2017 he said he did not even want guest workers
https://2015-2019.kormany.hu/en/the-prime-minister/the-prime-minister-s-speeches/prime-minister-viktor-orban-on-kossuth-radio-s-180-minutes-programme-20170908
Dont you still see the lies?
Hernandez, I did read the article. Please cite the appropriate section of the speech to back up your statement. I see no lies. I can see you misinterpreting the written word.
Maria, if this is not offering hungarian women then i dont know what it could be!
“So, if you are not married yet, you should immediately find a Hungarian wife!”
Its writend and said by orban.
And the second article is very clear as well
“And not only did we not have colonies, but we never even invited anyone here to live with us – either guest workers, or anyone else for any other reason. ”
Now he is bringing them.
Please, im asking you as an adult, can you say for once in your life that orban has been lying to hungarians?
Jose, it seems there are jobs the Hungarians do not wat to do, yet they have to be done. The guest workers are from the Philippines, non-Muslims. They seem to have the same Christian philosophy. Philippine guest workers interviewed, were happy in Hungary, saved their money and spent free time travelling through Europe and will return home to their families.
I believe the statement can be interpreted as a compliment that Hungarian women; Hungarian women make great wives. If you follow the country’s family policy, there is no way Orban would want any Hungarian to leave the country. The government is happy when those that left the country to work in foreign lands come back. Hungary makes it easy for people to be repatriated. The statement is a matter of interpretation.
Hungary never had colonies. Attila the Hun just ruled over a larger area than the Holy Roman Empire, Attila the Hun just promised these territories protection for which they paid with gold. Attila never interfered in their internal affairs. He was an efficient administrator.
Jose, how did we get this far from the original topic. No politician should be in charge of a fighting force. Politicians may declare war but once the war starts, it is up to the qualified service men to fight the war. General Patton and Montgomery fought and won in the African theater unlike their predecessors. The most efficient qualified general, or admiral should occupy the head position in NATO.
The topic i am discussing are the lies the fidesz says all the time. But i see you dont want to accept that orban did say even “guesr workers” are not welcome in that speech. He naver said muslims, he is always saying that Hungary will never be a migrant country, and in the end, his followers always accept his speeches without question his actions. Ask any Hungarian girl if what he said about single Hungarian women is acceptable, maybe only grandmas will say “yes is correct and not offensive” but i also think you are not open to change your mind, even with proof at hand
You are right. I will not change my opinion. Having lived in many countries and travelled extensively all over the world, I have gained knowledge and enormous amount of experience. I have also followed news from all over the world. When comparing Hungary to other countries, Hungary comes out on top whether it is free speech or a government that follows the wishes of the people and not some socialist elites’ policies that are damaging even the capitalist country US.
I do find it interesting to read other opinions but find it hard when people cannot find anything positive in a country like Hungary. If you believe that Hungary is bad, try travelling through an African country, Central American countries some Carribean Islands or even cities like San Francisco. Then you would better appreciate what you have in Hungary.