Leaked speech: Orbán said when Hungary should consider leaving the EU
For Hungary’s ruling party Fidesz, the current autumn political season started on 10 September this year. The meeting was held in the village of Kötcse. Viktor Orbán gave a speech on a wide range of topics that day.
The Prime Minister spoke about Ukraine, the war, the cooperation of the V4 countries, the future of the Fidesz government and Hungary’s EU membership, among other topics, in Kötcse on Saturday, 10 September. The Fidesz season-opening meeting was closed to the public, but Szabad Európa asked several participants what the Prime Minister talked about.
Ukraine
The war in Ukraine was one of the main topics of the speech. According to Orbán, this war could be around until 2030, and Ukraine could lose a third to even a half of its territory. He was sure the war would have been local, but the “West stepped in, making it global”, and now we are shooting ourselves in the foot in Europe with sanctions. According to Orbán, 40 percent of European industry could shut down this winter because of these sanctions.
European Union and the V4 cooperation
The Prime Minister still thinks that by 2030, the European Union could fall apart. However, the V4 (Visegrád Cooperation, Visegrádi Együttműködés) will be a strong centre of power by then. Orbán acknowledged that cooperation is in crisis because of the war, but that this can be overcome.
Thoughts about leaving the European Union?
By 2030, the V4 will become net contributors, and Orbán said that at that time, we must reflect on the meaning of EU membership, and what this membership gives us under these circumstances. If we cannot find a positive answer, we must draw conclusions, he said.
New family support measures to come
On Hungary, he said he would not concede under any circumstances to four strategic objectives. The first is demography: everything must be done to increase the population, so new family support measures will be announced in two weeks. He did not give details, Szabad Európa writes.
The second is to maintain full employment and protect the value of incomes. The third is the continued modernisation of the economy and the last is national unification. Here, according to our sources, the Prime Minister was thinking primarily of Hungarians beyond the borders, not of the need to ease the political divisions in Hungary.
The future of the Fidesz government
Finally, referring to his own political camp, the Prime Minister said that in recent times he has been consciously training a new generation in Fidesz who are well-educated, capable of governing. He said they should be able to lead the country from 2030 until 2060.
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Source: Szabad Európa, Telex
If PM V.O.’s plans/thoughts on “national reunification” were to be made public (widely), he’d be in deep manure (again) with Ukraine and possibly with Romania and Slovakia, and who knows how Serbia would react.
PM O.’s relationship with Serbia’s A.V. might seem very chummy, but I can tell you that the Serb population of northern Vojvodina is distinctly NOT a fan of PM V.O. because of his “interferecence” in the local status quo, I might even go as far as to say that the relationship between the ethnic Hungarians and local Serbs hasn’t been so strained for many years (I was there very recently and got a good “sample” of the situation).
What was also very interesting is that the local (very small) Chinese diaspora’s behaviour towards the ethnic Hungarians is even less positive than the local Serbs. …Makes me wonder if northern Vojvodina’s Chinese diaspora’s attitude to ethnic minorieties is a reflection of how they feel about them back home in China.
– Any other opinions from those who live in northern Vojvodina?
Yes please, leave EU as soon as possible.
I’m telling you, it is EUSSR 2.0.
Created from the start to corrupt and control.
A truly terrifying read.
Perilous for Hungary.
Definingly on a mission is the Prime Minister of Hungary to “leave the stage” with the lights out ///
Interesting the citizens of Hungary – another decision by the European Union that funds ain’t going to come, what Hungary needs and in time, to save Hungary, from “plunging” deeper into a “blackened “hole.
The Hungarian population, surely they know what their problem is and needs to take action(s) to curtail the ravaging and destruction collapsing economy, that is occurring inside Hungary at this point in time.
The propaganda machine from the Hungarian Government – the falseness in what is being FEED to the citizens of Hungary – Appalling.
Citizens of Hungary – if they read History should know, that Governments that are under a Dictatorship, when Cataclysmic Crisis’s occur, the population/citizens – get absolutely desigmated-smashed.
The brutality of Dictatorial governments – actions against civilization/population – Horrifying.
Hungary needs to carefully study – the Propaganda Machine coming out of its Dictatorial styled Government.
Sounds like Hungary is “circling the drain” politically, economically, and morally.
Smart,very smart
Yes indeed, the EU’s (very generous) handouts have aided and abetted corruption in Hungary. Having said that, corruption was big even back in the “good old” times when the “komcsik” were in power. …Can we then assume that it’s endemic?
Disgusting pig
Loving this. Let’s leave when we become net contributors. Milk those EU Bureaucrats, Soros Lapdogs and Liberal Elites until then!
Statistics! Hungary’s fertility rate stands at 1.5x – we should be above 2, which has not been the case since 1980
Hungarians must breed like crazy OR we will need to … import foreign labour … legal migration … have them pay tax …
Veiled Replacement Theory?
Hungary was always on the wrong side of war conflicts. And always lost. The same now. Great job of Putin with Orban. I guess it cost him a lot of money but Orban paid back from Hungarian nation.
@Tibor,
Yes indeed, Hungary must do something about it’s NEGATIVE population growth rate. According to 2020 statistics, Hungary’s growth rate was a (negative) – 4.9 births / 1000 population. The 2020 birth rate was 9.5 births / 1000 population, while the death rate was 14.3 deaths / 1000 population. No matter how One looks at that, it looks very grim.
As for importing foreign labour, and legal migration. Well, there aren’t too many countries that “electoral autocrat” PM V.O. would like to choose from, and Hungary’s wages are not at all attractive to anyone. Having said that, there could be some Chinese, Vietnamese, North Koreans, and REFUGEES from Myanmar, Syria, South America and Africa who might consider working for a little while in HU before moving onto better paid jobs elewhere in Europe. There are also those just “dieing” to get into Hungary at it’s Southern border,…ah nah, forget them, they all really just want to cross through Hungary to get to Western Europe. 🙂
All in all, it’s serious, and Hungary NEEEDS legal immigration as much as Germany (and other countries where the death rate well exeeds the birth rate) does.
In the not too distant future, for Hungary too survive, like it or not, the solution is as clear as a bell.
the grass is never greener on the other side. Hungarians have survived many a tyrants in europe. keep the culture strong as it concerns itself more with human life then money . stay strong . dont listen to propaganda . stay away from genocidal vaccines causing women to become sterile with endometriosis ,hence the small pox vaccine . beware . governments are greedy .
Another great article by Mercedesz 🙂 And then these comments! Everyone has an opinion, lol.