Elderly Budapest citizens vaccinated with this jab have no immunity?
The results of some new antibody/immunity tests of vaccinated elderly have arrived, and they do not look good.
The effectiveness of the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine was questioned on more than one occasion, in Hungary, as well. The European Union, for instance, still has not authorised the usage of these jabs.
Meanwhile, in Hungary, the majority of the elderly was vaccinated with it. In a country that is open for anyone to enter with a PCR test or a vaccine certificate, and where the usage of masks is no longer obligatory, this is not good news at all.
Starting from the beginning of last week,
Budapest Municipality offered the free possibility for those elderly over the age of 60 who were vaccinated with Sinopharm to take a test and find out whether they have a sufficient antibody level
that gives them immunity against the coronavirus.
This Tuesday, Budapest Municipality issued a statement about the tests. The blood samples were taken directly from the vein and examined by an external, private laboratory that used the SARS-CoV-2 IgG II Quant Assay tests. Those applying for the test gave their data on their vaccination voluntarily. Out of 1798 tests, 1760 gave a result that can be examined in detail.
These 1760 tests are not a representative result of all Budapest elderly over the age of 60,who were inoculated with Sinopharm. However, it can be useful to draw conclusions from analysing and presenting the findings of the tests, based on the voluntary declaration and information giving of the participants.
Let us see the results then.
23,90% of people over the age of 60 vaccinated with Sinopharm received a result stating that the level of neutralizer antibodies of IgG type in their blood circulation is insufficient.
It means that only 76,10% of those tested have proper immune protection.
When it comes to other serums, the percentage of those without a sufficient antibody level is significantly lower.
Pfizer: 2 people (0,75% of people tested)
Sputnik V: 7 people (5,47% of people tested)
Sinopharm: 294 people (23,90% of people tested)
As 24.hu writes, Mayor Gergely Karácsony commented the results on his Facebook page. Despite the test not being representative due to the voluntary basis, together with all experience, it suggests that something is not right. Namely that
hundreds of thousands of people from the generations of our parents and grandparents are not well protected,
while the delta variant is already in the neighbourhood, getting ready to unleash the fourth phase.
He suggests four important steps for the government to take as soon as possible:
- A free antibody test for everyone inoculated, with priority for those elderly who received the Chinese jab.
- Those who do not have antibodies should receive a third vaccine right away with a serum that was proven effective.
- The government should apologise for prioritizing its political propaganda and for serving the Chinese interests over the protection of the elderly.
- To share all details of the Chinese business and to account those billions of forints belonging to taxpayers that were paid for the transactions. To call to account the mediator company benefiting from the transaction. To repay all the stolen money into the common wallet.
Shady business around the Sinopharm vaccine in Hungary?
What will happen then to those who do not have a sufficient immune reaction? The government can decide about a third vaccine this Wednesday.
Until there is a clear decision and a protocol, no third dose can be given to anyone, not even if someone asks for it.
Last week, Gergely Gulyás, Minister of the Prime Minister’s Office did not say anything about what will happen to those unprotected.
Without a solution from the government, many Hungarians have decided to travel to Romania, as the country offers EU citizens to be vaccinated. So far, Romania registered over 700 Hungarians, most of them receiving a Pfizer dose.
Hungarians vaccinated with Sinopharm go to Romania to get Pfizer
According to the newest data of the ECDC (European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control) in Hungary, a little over two million people over the age of 60 were vaccinated. 568 thousand of them received the Chinese vaccine and almost all of them, 559 thousand elderlies are fully vaccinated with both doses. The database of ECDC states that 2.59 million people older than 60 live in Hungary. If a quarter of them does not have any immunity at all, the country might have to face some serious problems very soon.
Read alsoAll jabs in Hungary shown to prevent serious illness, says medical uni head
Source: 24.hu, ec.europa.eu
2.5 Million Hungarians – to date have been Vaccinated/Immunized with this Chinese Vaccine Conglomeration.
Government – be transparent – table age groups vaccinated/immunized – with this Chinese Vaccine Conglomeration.
Prepare us – as there is mounting scientific evidence – that those Vaccinated/Immunized – with this Chinese Vaccine Conglomeration – WILL need a 3rd Shot – of a real and universally approved not just the European Union – VACCINE.
This does QUESTION – the position besides that of our Government – areas branches of Medical Science in Hungary – not just Virologists – that AGREED – gave assurances unequivocally – this Chinese Vaccine Conglomeration – had ALL the qualities – to build immunity in our Hungarians bodies – to fight off this novel coronavirus.
If this backfires – and we have to through another virus strain – return for a 3rd jab of a REAL vaccine – it will be not just on our Government but the areas of Medical Science in Hungary – who APPROVED it’s use – be a DISGRACE.
It will raise questions like – what POLITICAL pressure was applied to these fields of Medical Science – to give APPROVAL for it’s broadsheet use 2.5 million plus Hungarians ???
It will be INTERESTING.
If anyone wishes to understand more on this then it’s explained in Reuters.
24 June 2021 Explainer: Are Chinese COVID-19 shots effective against the Delta variant?
China has not provided vaccine effectiveness results against the variant based on large-scale data in clinical trials or real-world use, nor offered detailed information from lab tests, but Chinese experts are urging people to get inoculated as soon as possible.
The lack of detailed data on the Chinese vaccines against the Delta has hobbled any meaningful peer reviews by foreign experts.
Antibodies triggered by Chinese COVID-19 shots less effective on Delta variant – researcher
BEIJING, June 25 2021 (Reuters) – Antibodies triggered by two Chinese COVID-19 vaccines are less effective against the Delta variant compared with other strains but the shots still offer protection, a Chinese disease control researcher told state media.
It does pose the question, how many have built up antibodies? No masks, no social distancing, no limit on group numbers. Producing daily figures on how many vaccinations have been given means nothing if the antibodies are too low or non-existent.
Answer coming out of the Government and Fields of Medical Science – if it goes WRONG – will take this line of ANSWERING – “but the Data we received from China – we could not find any reason(s) to question which we proceeded to APPROVE for use in the Hungarian population”.
Wow – hope WE don’t get to this cataclysmic mess.
What blame games, political spin, back stabbing, backside covering, duck shoveling and propaganda – watch this Space – it WILL all Happen and be mindboggling.
Piazzale Loreto – Milan year 1945 – could be a modern day re-enactment of that day in World History.
Who needs this hysteria? Why do they force this upon the people?
We all know 70% are sheep and follow blindly.
Think before believing this hoax
Just one prove of how disgraceful the regime is.
Here we go again !
The mysterious commentator “Caritas” claims in this most recent ramble to be a Hungarian through use of the words “we”, “us” and “our” but in several PREVIOUS dissertations has stated very clearly that she / he / it (“shit” for short) is in fact NOT a Hungarian citizen but in fact Australian !
Which is it ?
If “Caritas” is indeed Hungarian then state it for the record.
BUT if – as widely suspected by numerous readers of “D.N.H.” – “Caritas” is NOT Hungarian, then AS A FOREIGNER living in Hungarian she / he / it is NO position whatsoever to make ANY comments ON BEHALF OF Hungary and / or Hungarians.
In the latter situation, “Caritas” can make GENERAL comments but should not MISLEAD readers by
pretending to be something she / he / it is NOT !!
“Norbert” is – yet again – claiming to be HUNGARIAN in the most recent ramble.
Yet previous nonsensical comments from the same person clearly state that she / he / it (“shit” for short) is in fact AUSTRALIAN but living in Hungary.
FOR THE RECORD, “NORBERT”, FROM WHERE DO YOU COME ?
ARE YOU A HUNGARIAN CITIZEN OR IN FACT JUST A FOREIGNER LIVING IN HUNGARY ?
Foreigners (like “Mario” and other subterranean creatures whose usage of the English language is truly abysmal) – can (of course) make ‘general’ comments via “D.N.H.” but are in NO POSITION WHATSOEVER to submit opinions / rambles / etc. ON BEHALF OF Hungary or its CITIZENS – something for which you have an extreme propensity.
AustralianOrHungarian? and “Norbert’s”ExtremePropensity (as you clearly are the same person).
Please have a look at the term “ad hominem” as this fits here perfectly. I wish you had actually something smart to say or even proof that Caritas was wrong with the statements, but in this case you just give absolute mind boggling drivel about something that has nothing to do with the article or Caritas comment.
Fact is, the Orbán regime has made a complete mess due to their close ties to the Chinese communist parties wallet and now are too scared to admit their fault. I do wish more people would have their eye properly open to corruption like this, but unfortunately Hungary is full of people who just swallow anything the government tells them because they think the government is protecting them from “Soros” and nasty “gay pedophiles”, when in fact that is all just a big ruse to get the attention of people away from what is really happening in the background.
I hopefully will be leaving this country soon, as I am so sick and tired of this right-wing BS and the people who don’t want to move towards the future but rather move back to the old communist style past where nobody had to take responsibility of anything and everything was force-fed to them.
And by the way, anyone living in Hungary, regardless of their nationality, can absolutely make comments on behalf of Hungary and their citizens, they, just like me, most likely pay more taxes than you do, you tax evading rasist slob.
What a lot of drivel.
Don’t you have anything better to do?
It is coming out of your ears.
You guys are worse than the virus. Stop this rubbish you are carrying on with!