Hungarians travel to Romania for the Pfizer vaccine?
Many Hungarians, who were inoculated with the Chinese vaccine, travel to Romania to get a third jab of the Pfizer/BioNTech serum.
The Chinese vaccine and its possibly very low effectiveness in pushing the body to create antibodies, even after having received both shots, have been quite a big deal in Hungary. Since the country mainly uses this serum, especially for most elderly people, the high number of reported cases of people not having a proper immune reaction is alarming.
There is no protocol for whether someone can receive a third booster vaccine if there is no sufficient immune reaction. For this reason,
many Hungarians, whether in accordance with their family doctor or in complete secrecy, have decided to hop over to neighbouring Romania to get a third jab of the Pfizer vaccine.
The Chinese vaccine is fishy while Pfizer produces spectacular numbers
Virologist Miklós Rusvai told 24.hu that he actually knows about Hungarian doctors giving a booster shot to their patients in Hungary, as it is their personal decision whether they see it as a necessary step. Even though each and every dose needs to be administered, if a bit of the serum is left behind in the ampoule, or someone does not show up for his second dose, it is better to make use of it rather than throwing it out. He also mentioned that an insufficient immune reaction could happen with other vaccines as well; we can not concentrate only on the Chinese one. But in case it happens,
he advises receiving the booster shot of a different vaccine.
This is what happened to a Hungarian man over 60 years of age, who was fully vaccinated in March with the Chinese Sinopharm but had no immune reaction two weeks later. Since nothing happened and he did not get any information on what to do, his doctor advised him in May to try to get a booster vaccine somewhere abroad, also because his immune system looked like he had not received any vaccine. As he heard that Romania offers to inoculate foreign citizens of the EU without registration, only showing an ID card, he looked up the possible vaccine centres. He travelled to the country twice to receive two other jabs at a temporary vaccine spot where you do not even need to get out of your car.
Not everyone can be vaccinated in Romania, though. At least four weeks need to pass after having received the second jab. In Bahrein, for instance, people having received the Chinese vaccine but left without an immune reaction can get a third shot of the Pfizer jab, but strictly six months after the second Sinopharm dose.
According to Romanian sources,
out of the 4.5 million people who have been vaccinated in the country, roughly 20,000 were foreigners.
Even though Rusvai says it can happen with any serum, it seems that in Hungary, the biggest problem regarding a low number of antibodies is related to the Chinese vaccine when it comes to the elderly over 60.
There is a suspicious number of people from this age group who have not been able to produce a sufficient immune reaction after having been tested on more than one occasions for antibodies.
They even formed a Facebook group where hundreds of people already shared their experience and lab results, backed by virologists and immunologists. They ask for a free antibody test offered by the government, along with a third jab, if necessary.
Béla Merkely, the rector of Semmelweis University, says that “there is no evident connection between the number of anti-bodies and the level of protection.” Still, if someone receives an unfavourable result on the antibody test after receiving both jabs, he is offered a free and special test by the university. He did not say, however, anything about what to do next if this test comes back negative, as well.
Even though Merkely says the antibody level has no significance, his statement seems to be suspicious. In the case of the patient above, who had previously had a test with 0 antibodies, after having been inoculated with only the first dose of Pfizer, the amount of immune reaction was rather convincing.
It is important to know, however, that in case someone gets a jab in Romania, he will only receive a paper about it, but no information will be uploaded to the Hungarian electronic health care system, meaning that
the original Sinopharm serum will remain his official vaccine.
Romania is not the only country around Hungary to offer a vaccine. Serbia also welcomes foreigners who would like to be protected. As of March, over 22,000 foreign citizens were vaccinated in the country.
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Alarming – but not at ALL surprised.
The Chinese vaccine – it’s effectiveness – is factorially recorded in this article as follows ;
“the high number reported cases of people not having a proper immune reaction is Alarming”.
Cheap in cost compared to the PROVEN vaccines approved by the European Union.
The purchasing attainment by our Government – adding to the Dangerous developing relationships with the Chinese.
Supply of the Chinese “conglomeration” was Plentiful.
The jury still rests – as this Chinese “conglomeration” – the decision by our Government – which enabled the rapidness of vaccinated numbers in Hungary compared to other European countries inclusive of Great Britain and U.S.A. – the Chinese “conglomeration” could result in being a – Disaster.
Their is mass Trepidation – in the greater part of Medical Fields of Science – virology to name just one area, – that the Chinese vaccine – it’s POOR rate of immunity level, will in all probability – see the need for human beings to be “boostered” or fully re-vaccinated / Immunized – within 12 to 18 months – at most.
Scary – but Medical Science – have continued to “put on notice” – the volatility, risks and un-certainty of the Chinese vaccine.
New strains of this novel virus – look at Great Britain – devastating – and what happens if it gets into Hungary – and the vastness of our citizens have been “juiced up” – supposedly – Immunized by the Chinese “conglomeration” – that has the result percentage referred in this article ???
Interesting time – could be the “lull before the storm” or our present Government – their decision and strategy – they made – in FACT – saved Hungary.
Another failure, another embarassement for victorinu orbanicu.
Global “bombardment” gathering rapid pace on the FAILINGS of this Chinese vaccine “conglomeration”.
Scientific Medicine – Virology, this particular arm of Medicine, continue – in their opinion and advice – that this Chinese vaccine has major failings on its effectiveness to immunize – against this on-going novel coronavirus.
The Chinese “conglomeration” by Medical Statistical Data remains indicating a success rate of 22% in it’s effectiveness to fight this novel virus in the human immune system.
This is an appalling factual medical statistic – and global data of criticism of the failings of this Chinese “conglomeration” should be paid close attention – by those who have received it – in their bodies.
Major developments are still to un-fold on this Chinese vaccine “conglomeration”.
Victor Orban and his Government – are RIGHT in the Global firing line for their MASS usage of it in the Hungarian population, which could CHALLENGE us again as a country in our fight to live with and control this deadly novel coronavirus.
The concern of new strains – look at Great Britain – major worry for Hungary. The low 22% level of success rate – totally unacceptable – the Chinese vaccine “conglomeration is recording – and growing global examples of it’s FAILINGS – what will happen if a new strain gets into Hungary ???
St. Luke – please pray for us.
also welcomes foreigners who would like to be protected.
so what you say is the only protection is the vaccine ,???
not so ,
and what about protection from the vaccine ,??