Budapest Mayor Karácsony: war in Ukraine between good and evil
Ukraine has done more for us than we’ve done for Ukraine, Budapest Mayor Gergely Karácsony said in front of the Russian embassy in Budapest on Sunday, at the Momentum Movement’s commemoration of the 3rd anniversary of the war.
Russians aggressors, Ukrainians heroic
Karácsony said “the war is not only between the Russian aggressor and the heroic Ukrainian people but between good and evil, democracy and tyranny, courage and apathy.”
“Not only did the war not end in three years, events of the past week have brought the recognition that we might be living through Act 1,” he added. “I hope there’s a special place in hell for those purposely mixing up the aggressor and the victim … and mocking and making the target of hatred a nation’s self-defence,” he said. Karácsony said Ukraine was protecting Europe, too, as well as the ideals that held Europe together: freedom, dignity and democracy.
Solidarity and humanity, standing by Ukraine
The mayor declared that Hungary was not synonymous with its government. “Today people calling themselves patriots are the ones bringing out the worst in us. They have been systematically dividing and weakening Europe, and now they’re rejoicing over a divided, weak Europe.”
“According to the fundamental moral compass, solidarity and humanity, standing by Ukraine is not a matter of evaluation or calculation … [it] is faith and conviction, now and always. This is my faith and convictions, and Budapest’s faith and conviction,” he said.
Hungary supports US resolution on Ukraine, Hungarian government says
Péter Szijjártó, the foreign minister, has said that thanks to US-Russian negotiations, “we are at the closest point in the past three years to ending the war in Ukraine”. On Monday the UN General Assembly will discuss two peace resolutions, Szijjártó said on Facebook today. “One has been submitted by the Americans, the other by EU member states,” he said, adding that Hungary backed US resolution “and is even co-authoring it”.
He added that “pro-war, liberal European leaders have fuelled” the war, while President Donald Trump was “taking giant steps towards ending it”.
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Well said by Karacsony. Szijjarto is just a disgusting Russian boot licker with a bad haircut.
The only party that has fuelled the war is Russia. Generations of Russians will have to live with the shame of the fratricide they imposed on their kin and cousin.
Incredible how short Larry’s and Londonsteve memory is. Until Zelensky announced his intention of joining NATO and EU, there was no war. Russia did not even amassed forces on the Russia/Ukraine border until EU expansion cane into play. Russia’s response makes sense; Russia decided to take protective steps from having NATO on the doorstep from one more side. Russia never believed that NATO was a defense organization and if one listens to Rutte, Rutte wants to spend billions more on armaments for possible future attack; a future attack imagined by warmongers without empirical proof.
The EU member countries would do better to spend the money on research and development or simply improving the lives of citizens.
Russians do not have to be ashamed; the members of the Russian armed forces may have saved Russia from a future attack that could be devastating to the county.
Russians are never ashamed of making their hands dirty. Just look at 1956. That said, I might partially agree with the NATO argument but it fall apart with 2 things. The most obvious is that Russia is now having a wider nato border because of Finland, and everybody is disregarding the involvement of USA when they were trying to push Ukraine into NATO as well.
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was illegal under internal law. No question about it. Its troops also committed war crimes as well as acts very adjacent to war crimes.
However, that alone does not make Ukraine a paragon of virtue. Nor does it mean “we” (however defined) must go all-out to support Ukraine regardless of the cost, in perpetuation of a war that neither side can ever win outright.
I do not want a nuclear annihilation. I do not want our young men sent to die (and be replaced with third-world “New Europeans”). I do not want the cost of my groceries to quadruple. I do not want to be shivering in an ice-cold home because our energy supply is unreliable or interrupted. Etc. And all to save Ukraine from losing a bunch of pastures, hillocks, and hamlets.
Negotiate a settlement and end the war, while making it crystal clear what’s going to happen if Russia makes any further incursions.
End of the war? Cease fire? A “Deal”? Nope. The Russian leadership has clearly stated their intentions; that this war will not end without the total capitulation of Ukraine. Russia has invaded, annexed territories to “Russia Forever”, openly displayed their expansion plans and their hostility to Europe and its alliances. They are the “bad guys” and those who defend Ukraine with fighters, weapons, supplies and relief services for Ukrainian civilians are the “good guys”.
When I was a boy, one of my first neighborhood friends was an older Russian lady who raised cattle next to our little mini-farm. She was in Siberia trapping when the Bolsheviks took over Russia. Her home in Moscow was confiscated by the new government so she left her family, friends, and her life behind for a livable life elsewhere. Since then I’ve had many Russian friends; from the blind fisherman who taught me how to catch whitefish to the young family that died at the hand of Putin’s air force in the Mariupol bombing. The Russian people are not guilty. Their Czarist Tyrannical leaders are guilty, and of things too horrific to contemplate. No, unfortunately, an “end” to this war will not end the death and suffering that these autocratic Czarists deal out on a wholesale basis. The way to the “end” is to end that “blood soaked” autocratic tradition.
No lack of Russian propaganda from Maria von and Steiner. The US has never pushed anyone to join NATO and NATO has never attacked Russia during its’s entire existence nor would it ever do so under any circumstances ever as Russia is the biggest nuclear power in the world. That is reality. Every country that has joined NATO has done so due to the threat of Russia. That is reality. If Ukraine ever became an economically successful member of the EU and NATO that example would pose a threat to the legitimacy of the Russian regime the same as the bright lights of West Berlin for years showed East Germans that they lived under oppression and deprivation. For that reason and due to Putin’s imperialist expanasion dreams that is why he attacked Ukraine.
Larry try to live in a real world, instead of la la land. Yes Russia attacked Ukraine, but Zelensky started the rhetoric. Often preemptive strikes are fruitful in the long run. Ukraine is the enemy of Hungary; this must not be forgotten.