PM Orbán: Hungary to organise referendum about Ukraine’s EU accession, he scares with 100-200k Ukrainian guest workers

Ukraine’s European Union membership would ruin the economy of the EU and Hungary, Prime Minister Viktor Orbán told public radio on Friday, calling for the decision on the matter to be postponed.

No rational basis for supporting Ukraine’s war

Speaking from Brussels, Orbán said that “there is no rational basis” for the position of 26 European member states when it comes to continuing the war in Ukraine. “We have always said that there should be peace,” the prime minister told public radio on Friday. “We’ve been saying this now for three years.” The consequences of the war were “unbearable” for Hungarians, or would be borne with “great difficulty”, he said.

The other 26 EU member member states, he said, had a strategy to “convince the Ukrainians and themselves that it makes sense to continue the war”, even without the US, in which case “every last penny will go towards this war”. The divergence of opinion between Hungary and the other member states was “not new” but had been “bridged so far”, Orbán said. But now the divergence was between “peace-loving countries” led by the US and the 26 EU member states on whether there should be further war or whether peace should prevail.

Viktor Orbán
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Regarding the emergency EU summit on Ukraine on Thursday, Orbán said that rather than taking a stand for peace, the other member states had decided to continue the war, in the presence of the Ukrainian president. Orbán said he “wondered” what the others were hoping for, as “the Russians are winning on the front lines” despite the support of the other 26 member states and the US “up to now”.

Americans get out

“If the Americans get out now, how will the 26 member states stand a better chance of winning this war?” Orbán said, adding that the member states would take on heavy financial burdens if they decided to continue the war. NATO would not send money to Ukraine either, he said, “because the power axes have changed there too: the US wants peace, as does Turkiye, which maintains the second largest contingent in NATO, as well as Hungary and Slovakia.”

The summit discussed, “amid sharp disputes”, the goals the EU would finance in Ukraine, he said. Europe would finance the maintenance of the 800,000-strong Ukrainian army, Orbán said, adding that Zelensky had estimated the country would need 1 million troops after the war, too.

Further, the Ukrainian state would also need to be funded, as it is “currently non-functional”, Orban said, and Europe would also need to strengthen its own army. Ukraine’s EU membership, “which is at the door”, would also cost a hefty sum, Orbán said.

Orbán’s veto

“Today, it looks like I vetoed [the decision]. I have to admit we are not a part of what they adopted; but they will be back in weeks when it turns out there is no money to achieve these goals.” He said “we must seriously consider” the post-war financing of Ukraine, “because we don’t want all Europe’s money and all Hungary’s resources … to go to Ukraine.”

Orban warned that a Ukraine with EU membership would push the economy of the EU and Hungary to the brink of ruin. “Help is a nice thing”, and Ukraine needs it, he said, “but we can’t help them by ruining ourselves”. The tendency must be stopped in good time, he said, “because there is no chance of making a responsible decision now”. Ukraine may only join the EU with the unanimous support of all member states, he said. The process cannot be rushed, and all details must be carefully considered, he said.

Hungarians will vote about Ukraine’s EU membership

He added that he wanted to bring about a referendum on the topic as soon as possible.

Orbán warned that farmers would be the most threatened by Ukraine’s EU membership. “Ukraine is producing genetically modified produce under much laxer regulations that would depress prices if they flooded the European markets, and farmers would be ruined,” he said, noting the difficulties of Hungarian, Romanian and Polish farmers when “trade was opened” between the EU and Ukraine.

Meanwhile, Orbán said that Ukraine currently had 800,000 men serving in the army, “and the country has never been known for its excellent public safety”. Allowing the free movement “of citizens of such a country” in Hungary would be irresponsible at this juncture, he said.

Hundreds of thousands guest workers would come from Ukraine

Hungarian jobs would also suffer, he said, adding that Hungary could accomodate 30,000-50,000 guest workers a year, “not hundreds of thousands”. The referendum on Ukraine’s EU membership would tackle those issues, he said. “It should be organised similarly to National Consultation surveys, so everyone can voice their opinion.”

Orbán said other countries with more economic firepower than Hungary were calculating the cost of maintaining an army of one million in Ukraine, running the Ukrainian state, rearming Europe and bearing the burdens the country’s EU membership, and the conclusion would be drawn that “we cannot afford this”. He added that the roadmap adopted by 26 EU member states on Thursday would have to be changed owing to the implausible financing underpinning it.

Utility reduction scheme in Hungary a success

“Sooner or later”, he said, countries intent on waging war would turn to the peace camp as “everywhere in Europe people want peace”. Meanwhile, regarding the reduction of utility bills, the prime minister saied that every Hungarian household would pay around 500,000 forints (EUR 1,200) more each year “if we were to accept the Brussels position” and scrap the government scheme to reduce utility bills, adding that certain “representatives of Brussels in Hungary” shared that position.

Orbán said that when “a country is under such strong pressure” on issues such as migration, then “unity, consultations, referendums are all important”. This, he added, was also true of the scheme to keep household energy bills cheap. He said the EU considered that energy prices should be set freely, companies should be allowed to make market-based profits, and governments should not interfere.

“We disagree,” he said. “Millions of Hungarian families” would not be able to afford the kind of large gas and electricity bills that are normal in the rest of Europe, he added.

Food prices must decrease

Orbán said the opposition Tisza Party accepted the position of Brussels. The prime minister also said that supermarket chains in Hungary have one week to cut prices if they want to avoid price regulation. Orbán said it was “good news” that talks with supermarket chains on reducing profit margins were advancing, but added that the progress was not fast enough.

He acknowledged that some supermarket chains had started to reduce the prices of staples specified by the government, but said that was too little and that the national economy minister needed to continue working on the matter.

“I would like to avoid intervention with regulatory means affecting prices or retailers’ profits. Neither does any good for the economy in the long term, but we’ll be forced to carry through if everybody doesn’t reduce prices,” he added.

Corrupt dollars

Prices don’t rise, they are raised, and those who raise prices need to see there is a threshold that may not be crossed, Orbán said Meanwhile, Orbán called for launching an investigation into “corrupt funding from Brussels”. “Corrupt dollars” had arrived in Hungary from Brussels, as well as from the US, in order “to influence the Hungarian public”. “That must also be cleared up”, he said.

He insisted that Brussels had paid people in Hungary to represent “not the Hungarian government or people, or public opinion shaped in Hungarian referendums, but to push the will of Brussels through”.

“This is more outrageous than the matter with the US,” Orbán said, adding that the EU was using member states’ money. “They sent back some of the money we paid to influence and change the stance of the Hungarian government, for example on the matter of utility price reductions.”

Legislation to prevent that from happening again is expected to be adopted by the Easter, Orbán said.

The third monies to be investigated are “the coffers of the Soros network”, he said.

Orbán said “Hungarian public life” would lose “hundreds of millions or many billions of forints”, but rather than “hearing the voice of foreigners” owing to “hidden connections” to Hungarian public opinion, discussions “that are important for Hungary and based on the interests of the Hungarian people” would take place.

Brussels, he added, was behind many voices heard in today’s Hungarian politics.

Orbán trying to divert attention away from real issues that affect Hungarians, says main challener Péter Magyar

Prime Minister Viktor Orbán is trying to divert attention away from issues that truly affect the livelihood of Hungarians, using billions of forints of public money to do so, Peter Magyar, the leader of the opposition Tisza Party, said on Friday, vowing to mount a survey to gauge public opinion on the European Union membership of Hungary and Ukraine.

Magyar said that in December 2023 Prime Minister “Viktor Orbán, together with the EU’s leaders,” approved Ukraine starting accession talks with the EU. “Then, the prime minister asked for nobody’s authorisation; now, on the other hand, he’s trying to distract people from the issues that truly have an impact on their livelihoods,” Magyar said. “Everyone knows that Ukraine, a war-torn country, has no chance of joining the EU in the next decade. Like Turkiye, which will never become an EU member,” he said.

After March 15, Tisza will ask people’s opinions on issues that affect everyone’s lives, such as “how to save billions of budgetary funds; we will also integrate Orbán’s question, as well as ask Hungarians’ opinion on Hungary’s EU membership so that Orbán has a clear picture of where Hungary really belongs,” Magyar said.

Former PM Gyurcsány: Orbán has split from EU

Viktor Orbán has “split from” the European Union, the opposition Democratic Coalition (DK) leader said on Friday. Referring to Thursday’s emergency EU summit, Ferenc Gyurcsány said Orbán “broke off” from the bloc not because of “a piece of paper [or] a treaty”, but because of the EU’s “way of life, thinking and culture”.

In a post on social media, the leftist politician insisted Orbán’s ties with the EU were like a “broken marriage” even if “the divorce has not yet pronounced yet”. Gyurcsány accused Orbán of a betrayal of Hungary and “our historical path”.

“There’s no other option: we must oust the traitor or else we, too, will be defeated,” he said. “In Europe we’ll remain, but for this Orbán must go.” Gyurcsány added: “Hungarians in Europe must fight together. Let’s fight!”

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5 Comments

  1. I am sure our Politicians, in particular Mr. Orbán, will recall this discussion regarding free movement:

    “With their (“A10” countries including Hungary’s) original accession to the EU, free movement of people between all 25 states would naturally have applied. However, due to concerns of mass migration from the new members to the old EU-15, some transitional restrictions were put in place.

    Despite the fears, migration within the EU concerns less than 2% of the population. However, the migration did cause controversy in those countries which saw a noticeable influx, creating the image of a “Polish Plumber” in the EU, caricaturing the cheap manual labour from A8 countries making an imprint on the rest of the EU.

    The extent to which E8 immigration generated a lasting public backlash has been debated. Ten years after the enlargement, a study showed that increases in E8 migrants in Western Europe over the last ten years had been accompanied by a more widespread acknowledgement of the economic benefits of immigration.

    Following the 2007 enlargement, most countries placed restrictions on the new states, including the most open in 2004 (Ireland and the United Kingdom) with only Sweden, Finland and the 2004 members (minus Malta and Hungary). But by April 2008, these restrictions on the eight members had been dropped by all members except Germany and Austria.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_enlargement_of_the_European_Union

  2. If Orban’s ideological soulmate Donald Trump wants to make a critical minerals deal with Ukraine does it not follow that Ukraine has something valuable to offer the EU? Ukraine can supply these minerals to Europe as an EU member state. Orban’s motive for acting against Ukrainian memberships is completely based on his need to act on Putin’s wishes as a Russian ally.

  3. Trump considers redeploying 35,000 US troops from Germany to Hungary amid WW3 fears. This is bad. Now Trump is trying to involve Hungar in the Ukranian mess. Hungary should do everything to keep US forces out from the country. US forces were stationed in Germany since 1945, that is 80 years. Hungary should not cede its sovereignty to either EU or US for the next 100 years.

  4. I am so f… sick of Ukraine already.

    No Ukraine in any organization. No U.S. troops in Hungary. No Russian troops in Hungary. No any troops in Hungary than Hungarian.

    End this damn mess already!

    • Mr. Trump racing to our Politicians aid! Prayers answered, efforts rewarded!

      I think a State Visit from the US with a parade of some sorts is in order. Mr. Carlson can do interviews. Országház as the backdrop. Flags and banners!

      Again. Be careful what you wish for.

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